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Creek Running North
September 22, 2005
Lurker Day: the wrapup
I hit that little "publish" button on my Lurker day post and thought "now wouldn't it be hilarious if no one replies to this?"
I needn't have worried. I'm profoundly touched by the wonderful thoughtful things my (former) lurkers have said, and I'm not just talking about the offers of out-making. You guys rock, and I hope not all of you go back to lurking. It's far more fun to do this when I hear from you.
And even though Lurker Day is over, I hope any lurkers who missed it will feel free to add their "howdy"s to the thread. Or this one, if it's easier. Though the comments have been almost embarrasingly laudatory - and I am truly honored – please don't feel you have to fawn to say something. Surely we have at least a few lurkers here who can't believe how pigheaded I am, and who keep coming back the way I keep visiting Michelle Malkin's blog.
It's also been gratifying to see that a few other people liked the idea of Lurker Day (or, as they call it in Indiana, Delurker Day. A national holiday a day old, and already there's regional variation. Isn't human culture wonderful?)
Posted by Chris Clarke at September 22, 2005 11:49 AM
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Don't knock on Hoosiers. We fight unfair. And drink a lot.
(Judging from the paper's police beat)Posted by: Lauren at September 22, 2005 12:17 PM
Bah. *I* threw a de-lurker day and the only comment was from my best friend!Posted by: Space Kitty at September 22, 2005 12:26 PM
There's more than corn in Indiana. There's beer, too. Um, and that's about it.
I'm a former Who-zee-ay, so I can make fun all I want.Posted by: Lisa Cech at September 22, 2005 12:33 PM
What's your name, Hoosier Daddy?Posted by: Chris Clarke at September 22, 2005 12:43 PM
Another from Vancouver, WA (don't know Jer, though). Like the writing, like the dog (have 2 semi-seniors of my own) Got here from Kathy F, got there from Christie's DoggedBlog.
I'm a degree of separation!
Someone ought to start a blog game, Six Blogs of Separation.Posted by: KathyF at September 22, 2005 12:52 PM
That's the first time I think I've ever seen or heard you say "you rock." It was jarring.
I'm not sure I approve.Posted by: craig at September 22, 2005 01:23 PM
Not sure why you'd ask for commentary from your readers (as requested in "Lurker Day"), while you often de-post or delete insightful (and not necessarily critical) commentary from your readers in the past .. .... That certainly doesn’t feel very welcoming for readers to comment. Yes, you do have a very nice blog, which I, and my friends, enjoy reading, but it doesn't feel good that you've deleted commentary in the past. Commentary in which I had seen on your blog one day, then gone the next, making room for something more congratulatory.
As a writer, I would hope that you would embrace this critique.
Thank you for opening your blog to your readers, I hope that you are able to embrace the comments of all of your readers :> ]
while you often de-post or delete insightful (and not necessarily critical) commentary from your readers in the past
What complete bullshit.
In two and a half years of blogging, I have deleted no one's comments for being uncomplimentary. I have deleted one person's comments because a friendship came to an end, and seeing them was painful. That may or may not have been an adult thing to do, but I did it, and all but one of those comments was friendly.
Aside from that, in order for me to delete your comments, you have to spam, troll abusively, or persist in religious proselytizing after I ask you to stop.Posted by: Chris Clarke at September 22, 2005 02:28 PM
This went around last year too, and I believe they were calling it Delurker day then, so it's anybody's guess as to its original name. So, when is someone gonna have stalker day? It would be a chance for anyone stalking you to 'fess up and ask for forgiveness, or maybe get an autographed 8x10 glossy or something.Posted by: nina at September 22, 2005 03:07 PM
I'm de-lurking from southern California. But when I look at my blog's stats I often show up as being from Reston, VA. Not sure why. I got thrilled thinking that someone is VA really liked my writing. Then I discovered that I was being silly.
I got here by following Dale's link. He is one of my favorite writers and I'm glad I took his advice. I look forward to developing a one-sided literary relationship with your writing. (grin)Posted by: em at September 22, 2005 04:01 PM
Is it me or what? Do you review the comments before they are published?! Jebus dammit, this is my third try!!!Posted by: flawedplan at September 22, 2005 04:32 PM
Don't worry, flawed. It's not Chris. More of a ghost-in-the-machine type thing. If CC reviewed comments first, there are one or two of us around here who would vanish into the mist.
And Chris, you weren't entirely accurate above. You deleted my comment last February about wanting to bear your love-child.
Unless that was just another hallucination.
I should probably go take my meds.Posted by: tost at September 22, 2005 07:48 PM
That was you?Posted by: Chris Clarke at September 22, 2005 08:13 PM
Yeah, at least if you're referring to the comment signed, "Looking For Love In All The Wrong Places."
Posted by: tost at September 22, 2005 09:56 PM
Em, my location is always listed as Ipswich, Suffolk. I've never been to Suffolk, far as I know.
I think that must be the home address of BT, my service provider. But I can't explain the location being clear across the country.Posted by: KathyF at September 22, 2005 10:50 PM
Hi, de-lurking here from Seattle, WA. I've seen your comments in various other blogs, I think BitchPhD's mostly. I'm testing out your blog to see if I want to become a loyal reader. So far I like it a lot :)Posted by: kyra at September 22, 2005 10:53 PM
Hi Kathy, yeah, I thought that it must have something to do with my service provider, but that seems pretty far away.Posted by: Em at September 22, 2005 11:30 PM
hi chris, I found your blog via twisty. I found twisty one afternoon as I was googling local flora and fauna (I'm in austin). she has some great pictures & stories in her varmint center.
I surely appreciate your writing. I'm not the elegant writer that you and twisty are so I generally spare the reader my meagre talents. but you've asked, and so I reveal. some days I sit back and marvel at the ways the internet has changed, and has changed our lives.
here's a hurricane rita update: the austin city limits music festival will go on as austin is no longer in direct range .... many here are worried about the effects on NOLA, and sorry the storm has turned eastward.
stories from those trying to leave houston and points south are stunning: IF cars moved, they inched ahead at two miles an hour. folks could have walked out of town faster than that. thank you, republican governor who ordered the evacuation of houston, a city of four million. maybe 1.2 million have left ... imagine the scene had more tried. the traffic is backed up for 100 miles bumper-to-bumper, stalled.
cheers to all for a restful weekend. peacebugPosted by: peacebug at September 23, 2005 09:53 AM
I have been thinking about re-lurking, actually. I feel so much more powerful and sneaky when I can just sit back and read without feeling any compunction to weigh in. Ideally, I would never leave Bloglines, except that some blogs (not this one) don't supply full content, the bastards. To qualify as a lurker, do you have to actually visit the site? If so, we need a new word for those invisible readers via RSS...
Re: peacebug's comment above, the statement that s/he shouldn't comment because of inelegance is disproved by the perfectly straightforward prose. That's grace enough in my book. Lord knows if everyone felt so diffident, the blogosphere would be great deal quieter.Posted by: Dave at September 23, 2005 10:40 AM
I'm outing myself as a lurker. I live in Beijing and am working on my dissertation. I read you b/c I find the mix of eloquent style plus nature/science/politics/personal content enjoyable. That said, I don't weigh in b/c I wouldn't fit in here, politically. I also consider myself "so far left that Gandhi seems right next to Hitler" (or something like that; but I can't recall if it was you or the Pharyngula guy who said that...), but I'm a Hitchens fan and support the war for the reasons he gives. Yeah, I know your regular readers will go apoplectic at the mention of his name, but I've still never read an intelligent rebuttal of his stance (and yeah, I've read Juan Cole: some good points, but in the end insufficient; and Galloway? please; though he did close well). Anyway, I've never found a blog that reflects my viewpoints (suggestions welcome) and if I were computer-savvy enough, I'd start my own (maybe when I'm done with this diss thing I'll look into it), but while conservative blogs make me vomit, I merely disagree with liberal blogs. You've already got a good thing going here and I reckon my input would only ruffle feathers; but if you want more input from the other (or another) side, I'd be happy to say more. I have lots of opinions that'll likely get somebody's goat, aside from the war: I wouldn't want to put up with BitchPhd's kid at work either, I blame the dead people of NO for getting themselves dead and not Bush, I'm not only for abortion I also support infanticide. Etc. And I reckon anybody's opinion on any war is shit unless they can answer one simple question: when is war just? Anyway, you can't hate me b/c I happen to know that Belgian ale is the bees knees.
I normally read Creek Running North at my home in Chigasaki, Japan, but am typing this note from Boston.
I can't remember how I first stumbled across your blog, but have found it a pleasure to read. And I also got a surprise. Some of the names that popped up in entries seemed awfully familiar, and it wasn't long before I realized that I knew these people, or at least I used to more than twenty years ago, before I moved to Japan and fell out of touch.
Please give my regards to Matthew.
Best, and thanks for the blog,
DavidPosted by: David Cozy at September 24, 2005 05:07 AM
I've probably been a lurker--may have made some comments. My home is in Elkhart, IN, though I'm only there weekends, which for me is Wednesday and Thursday--that's life working for the railroads.
I found this blog through Susan of a line cast, a hope followed. I particularly appreciate the autobiographical pieces.
Yes there's more than corn in Indiana, as that dreadful commercial for Indiana Beach goes. I'll quote poet Kenneth Rexroth (a South Bend native) writing in 1965 in the San Francisco Examiner: "Driving back the length of Indiana by secondary roads to Elkhart and South Bend, I was once more impressed by how much like France Indiana is. This gives my highbrow expatriate friends fits when I say it, but it's true...
"Indiana is in fact built geologically like the land from the lower Massif Central to the Paris Pasin--a series of limestone cuestas like a low pile of cracked saucers..."
Of his adopted state of California, Rexroth writes the following: "Today we have destroyed most of our accessible beauty and are busily piling hideousness on horribility. We have turned the most beautiful lake in America into a stinking slum and our highways are nightmares by Andy Warhol."
That was 40 years ago. Since then, we've lost a lot, but there's still a lot of lovely countryside. Governor Daniels (Bush's "My Man Mitch would love to pave over a lot more of it, though.Posted by: steve at September 25, 2005 10:33 AM