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February 04, 2006
Another American fed up with liberals
Wycoff is charged with murder in the stabbing deaths of Julie Rogers, 47, and her husband, Paul, 48, early Tuesday morning after breaking into their house where they and two of their three children slept. A special circumstance of multiple murders makes him eligible for the death penalty.
"Overall, I feel like I took down some bad people," said Wycoff, who added he only saw his sister once or twice each year over the past 15 years. "I made the world a better place."
Speaking coherently and politely, Wycoff said Friday that he was upset with the "liberal" political views of his sister and her husband[...]
"I was just getting fed up with the life she was leading," he said. "I was appalled with what my sister and brother-in-law did."
Posted by Chris Clarke at February 4, 2006 12:16 PM
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American superiority in action
Excerpt: Via Chris Clarke, here’s how an American handles outspoken people he doesn’t like…
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Chris, thanks for your comment at Twisty's on pornography. I replied at comment #89. For some reason your post hadn't appeared when I replied to Hissy Cat and Liz ... or I would have thought even harder before writing ... and responded to you much earlier.
One frustrating element (about even trying to have this conversation) is the paucity of "feeling" words in the English language ... making nuanced communication very difficult. The two forms of desire I comment on in #89 have completely different terms in Buddhism.
Robert A. Johnson, writing in "The Fisher King & The Handless Maiden" notes that (pg.6) ... "Sanskrit has ninety-six words for love; ancient Persian has eighty, Greek three, and English only one. This is indicative of the poverty of awareness or emphasis that we give to that tremendously important realm of feeling. Eskimos have thirty words for snow, because it is a life-and death matter to them to have exact information about the element they live with so intimately. If we had a vocabulary of thirty words for love ... we would immediately be richer and more intelligent in this human element so close to our heart. An Eskimo probably would die of clumsiness if he had only one word for snow; we are close to dying of loneliness because we have only one word for love. Of all the Western languages, English may be the most lacking when it come to feeling."
"It is always the inferior function, whether in an individual or a culture, that suffers this poverty. One's greatest treasures are won by the superior function but always at the cost of the inferior function."
We are adept at thinking and logic and rhetoric, and impoverished in feeling.
It interests me that we revere a person who thinks too much ... and avoid a person who feels too much.
/ePosted by: ehj2 at February 5, 2006 10:40 AM
on topic -- he gave another interview friday: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/04/BAGTMH2TJL1.DTL&hw=el+cerrito&sn=004&sc=671
this is just so awful. i can't help but think there is something *very* mentally wrong with this person. he thought he'd sneak in with a pathetic disguise, do the deed, and then come back to raise the children right... he could speak and not drool with the interviewers, but this is a picture of a very sick, damaged individual.
it reminds me of the killings of abortion providers. this is the kind of case where i wonder -- at what point does venomous political rhetoric [and the sense that any means to an end is acceptable] tip the balance for a mentally ill person?
the state of political discourse now is so ugly and off-track in many ways -- it really isn't a discussion if asking about facts brings on a tirade about liberals giving comfort to the enemy. as one friend says, a fish rots from its head.Posted by: kathy a at February 5, 2006 12:34 PM
Abolitionist rhetoric has consequences. Anne Coulter's "jokes" aren't lost on the violent crazy segment of her audience.Posted by: Lindsay Beyerstein at February 5, 2006 04:02 PM
This post originally comes from my blog's beginning in 2002, I think it's still relevant.
One of my reasons for reading science fiction/speculative fiction (as opposed to sword & sorcery style fantasy or space-located varieties of westerns, &c) is that it can deal with all sorts of ideas & speculations about humanity, society, reality, &c. This edited extract is an example.
From "Inheritor" by CJ Cherryh (p 365 of my paperback edition) -- Third in a series set on an alien world where stranded humans are co-existing uneasily with another race who are said not to have emotions in the same way as humans. CJC tends towards the 'higher' end of 'space opera' — lots of action & excitement, but reasonable characters and touching on bigger themes — tho' she also does other sub-genres.
"Not love, he thought to himself. And then thought, ... maybe they'd had such rotten luck with the love and man'chi aspect of relations because that word in [English] blurred so many things together it just wasn't safe to deal with.Posted by: Mez at February 5, 2006 06:04 PM
They were lovers. But Ragi said they were sexual partners.
They were lovers. But Ragi said they were associated.
They'd made love. But Ragi said there they were within the same lord's man'chi.
They'd made love. But Ragi said there were one-candle nights and two-candle nights and there were relationships that didn't count the candles at all.
They'd made love. But a Ragi proverb said one candle didn't promise breakfast. ...
He was quite out of his depth trying to reckon that. But with Jago he certainly wouldn't count the candles. Whatever they could arrange, as long as it could last from both sides, that was what he'd take."
yikes. to me, "abolitionist" evokes the movements to abolish slavery and the death penalty.... but i think we're on the same page about violent rhetoric, lindsay.Posted by: kathy a at February 5, 2006 06:09 PM
Dunno what to make of the political slant to the crime but it seems to me that more than a healthy dose of family politics was involved (tussel over father's estate and situation with great aunt) rather than slavish devotion to right wing rhetoric.Posted by: Andrew Warinner at February 6, 2006 01:58 AM
Well of course.
I don't think the victims' political leanings were the reason for the crime. The interesting thing to me about the case is that trashing liberals has become so common that liberalism can be offered as a reason for murder by someone desperately trying to explain away an insane act.Posted by: Chris Clarke at February 6, 2006 06:40 AM
Wycoff said he went to a Coldplay concert on Monday night at Arco Arena in Sacramento -- the first concert he had ever attended in his life. He said he didn't drink or use drugs, which he says he never does.
"I thought it could be a bit of an alibi," he said. "It seems like somebody who goes to a Coldplay concert wouldn't do this."
WTF?!?!Posted by: craig at February 6, 2006 11:26 AM
It's simple, Craig. If they're too unmotivated to find actual good music to listen to, no way would they summon up the energy to commit a home-invasion murder.Posted by: Chris Clarke at February 6, 2006 11:33 AM
He would have been better off claiming he had eaten too many Twinkies, and listened to Coldplay's music backwards. I do think we need to feel equally appalled when the US starts bombing Iran in the next couple of months, speaking of 'home invasions.'Posted by: spyder at February 6, 2006 03:35 PM